I know even less about the classical or Kansai-ben flavors of Japanese than my pitiful scrabbling at (not even qualifying as a grasp on) the modern standard form-- good question about the copula; I'm not sure how much research Takahashi's done on the linguistic dimension, but there does seem to be a very long discussion of different IY characters' speech patterns here (http://www.animenation.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-145231.html).
But sentence-final particles tend to work kinda like punctuation, so there wouldn't be any inherent link between "Keh!" (which feels like an annoyance-marker similar to 'tte(ba)) and any particular preceding word/phrase such as ja nai or yan-- the Wikipedia article on Kansai-ben says that ya is actually just the standard dialect equivalent for da, reinforcing my conviction that yan would gloss fairly well as "ain't". However, if you're a contrary street punk, you might end every other sentence with that combination. (Instead of know-it-alls, would these kids be "no it ain't"s?
I'm not really sure where Tomoe's birthdate comes from-- it's repeated all over the web, so it must be from one of the later RK fan/artbooks. Whether that makes it canon is probably debatable, considering some of the (other) speculation the authors indulged in, and Oro-chan didn't even seem to know his own birth year unless he really couldn't count that high without resorting to finger/toe/whatever-tallying when Kaoru asked him his age.
(One suspects that Hiko may not have been all that interested in teaching him math. Or perhaps one simply hopes. Hiko Seijuurou, sadistic algebra teacher extraordinaire!!!!)
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on 2006-02-22 06:35 pm (UTC)But sentence-final particles tend to work kinda like punctuation, so there wouldn't be any inherent link between "Keh!" (which feels like an annoyance-marker similar to 'tte(ba)) and any particular preceding word/phrase such as ja nai or yan-- the Wikipedia article on Kansai-ben says that ya is actually just the standard dialect equivalent for da, reinforcing my conviction that yan would gloss fairly well as "ain't". However, if you're a contrary street punk, you might end every other sentence with that combination. (Instead of know-it-alls, would these kids be "no it ain't"s?
I'm not really sure where Tomoe's birthdate comes from-- it's repeated all over the web, so it must be from one of the later RK fan/artbooks. Whether that makes it canon is probably debatable, considering some of the (other) speculation the authors indulged in, and Oro-chan didn't even seem to know his own birth year unless he really couldn't count that high without resorting to finger/toe/whatever-tallying when Kaoru asked him his age.
(One suspects that Hiko may not have been all that interested in teaching him math. Or perhaps one simply hopes. Hiko Seijuurou, sadistic algebra teacher extraordinaire!!!!)